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[1] Submitted by: avih on Saturday March 29th 2003

test ;)

[2] Submitted by: warenhaus on Saturday March 29th 2003

is it supposed to be enabled by a middle-click, like in IE? as that doesn't work for me. if yes, i guess it's due to the mouse gesture ext i use: RadialContext.
i'd be happy to be able to use both at the same time though.
(posted this in mozillazine also)

[3] Submitted by: warenhaus on Saturday March 29th 2003

sorry, guess what i meant was autoscroll, i thought the extension would implement both, smooth AND autoscroll.
smooth scrolling with the wheel works fine with your ext.

WinXP, Px nightly 20.march, TBE, RadialContext, TabScroller, Textlinks, NukeImage, Adblock,...

[4] Submitted by: avih on Monday March 31st 2003

I need your feedbacks and help, pls ;)

[5] Submitted by: jiv on Tuesday April 1st 2003

Very nice -- slightly higher CPU usage than the built-in smoothscroll, but still very acceptable. Both are much less intensive than IE's smoothscroll. Also, I find the non-linear scroll to be very pleasant.

I will very probably not use this, though, due to what is probably an unsolvable problem: without vsync, it's ... hard to describe, but 'jerky', as are all other such things. I guess since this is implemented on the outer layers of things, doing the redraws on retraces isn't very possible.

[6] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday April 1st 2003

@jiv
regarding the vsync, i understand the issue, i have no clue at all to sync to the v-retrace...
however, to lower the framerate (on really fast computers it's currently cropped at about 200fps) you can change the timer between scroll events on the last line of the function <function smoothWheelLoop(){>
(and NOT function smoothWheelHandler(e){) from 5 to 20 or so. if you set it to 40 (ms) it will be dropped at 25fps, in which case, the vsync issue won't be an issue anymore.

cheers
avih

[7] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday April 1st 2003

hopefully, in the next version, i'll add a desired framerate variable, with default as 25 fps or so. i'll also see if i can change the implementation to make it look smoother.

also, there's room for improvements in the scroll algorithm, it should be possible to make it smoother between consecutive wheel events. i'll think about it.

avih

[8] Submitted by: jiv on Tuesday April 1st 2003

Thanks for the suggestions! I'll play around a bit.

Another thought: if you ever decide to implement the in-form scrolling, it'd be nice to build on your current configurability and allow it to be disabled. The fact that it always, no matter what, scrolls the entire page (rather than whatever scrollable part you happen to be hovering over) can actually be pretty useful.

[9] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday April 1st 2003

@jiv:
note taken
thanx

[10] Submitted by: Suzy on Friday April 11th 2003

Thank you, this is just what I've been looking for. So far it is working quite well for me.

[11] Submitted by: meso on Sunday April 13th 2003

Nice work. I'm using it on 3-20 and it works well.

Also can you please make the actual xpi available for downloading. I'd like to keep a copy on my computer.

Thanks

[12] Submitted by: avih on Sunday April 13th 2003

@meso:
http://downloads.mozdev.org/smoothwheel/smoothwheel.xpi

[13] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday April 15th 2003

v0.2 test.

[14] Submitted by: SilvereX on Wednesday April 16th 2003

Just tried it on Moz1.3. Gecko's default smoothscroll performs very cool on Linux on a kernel with low-latency patch, but not too good on Windows - it just feels to slow. Smoothwheel is way better on Windows. However, I would like a capability to smoothscroll with PgUp/PgDn/Scrollbar clicking/good old keyboard arrows ;-)

[15] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday April 16th 2003

@SilvereX:
glad to hear smoothwheel is working nicely 4 u. does it work well on linux as well? (only tried phoenix on linux with smoothwheel).

i 1st wanna concentrate on bugfixes, and features only later. it should not be a problem to implement handling of scrollbar arrows and pgup/pgdn/arrows etc.

you can use ALT-Wheel to do pg-up/pg-dn smoothly. check out the configuration section.

thx 4 the feedback.
avih

[16] Submitted by: SwampFan on Wednesday April 16th 2003

Very nice extension - only the second one I've installed that I plan to keep. Great customization features as well, I've already tweaked a few and am scrolling away.

Thanks Avi!

[17] Submitted by: hao2lian on Wednesday April 16th 2003

What is non-linear scrolling and linear scrolling? i.e.
//selects either linear (=0) or various non-linear(=1/2/3) scroll profiles. default is 1.
//possible values:
// 0 : Linear
// 1 : 2nd power (non-linear)
// 2 : 3rd power (non-linear)
// 3 : cosine (non-linear)

[18] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday April 16th 2003

@hao2lian:
linear: the page scrolls at a constant speed for each wheel action.

non-linear: the page moves at a variable speed, thus making it less "harsh" (more gracefull).

if you wanna see it totally linear, you should also disable smoothTransitions. (you can choose preset 5 for a linear profile).

avih

[19] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday April 16th 2003

@SwampFan:
great, thanx.
what's the other extension?? ;)

[20] Submitted by: weo on Friday April 18th 2003

How do you install this via shell??

[21] Submitted by: avih on Friday April 18th 2003

@weo:
i don't know... i took someone's else installer, and just changed the relevany parts. parts of it i don't quite understand. why do u need shell install? if you're going to USE it.. then u must be using graphical display.. ain't it? sorry that i have no answer though.

avih

[22] Submitted by: Chee on Monday April 21st 2003

Using 0.2 under Mozilla 1.3 here with default settings. I'm finding that the scrolling "jumps" too many lines (around 6) with each click of the mousewheel. Is there a way to set SmoothWheel so that each single click of the wheel will scroll the page by only 1 or 2 lines but if I were to roll the wheel quickly the scolling would increase more than proportionately?

Thanks in advance.

[23] Submitted by: avih on Monday April 21st 2003

@chee:
that's a great idea :) i'll think about it (watch this mini forum, i might post a solution here soon)

in the meanwhile though, you could:

1. hold the shift key while scrolling. by default it will reduce the scroll steps by a factor of 10.

or

2. still keep it proportional, but use smaller steps (relative to the vieable window height): change RelativeStepFactor in the configuration section to something higher than 6.7 (let's say 10 or 15)

hope it helps..
great idea anyway

avih

[24] Submitted by: Chee on Thursday April 24th 2003

Thanks, avih. Re your 2 suggestions:

1. Holding down Shift key - tried that it's very good for fine-tuning when the bottommost line is partially obscured but for practical scrolling it's too slow.

2. Changing RelativeStepFactor makes it better but I'm still holding out for your upcoming "solution" ;-)

3. BTW, maybe I didn't RTFM clearly, but when the pointer is stopped over an inline image Smoothwheel will not work. However Smoothwheel will work if the "momentum" of a scroll action "carries" the pointer through an inline image. Is there any way to fix this? Sometimes I need to perform some actions on an image, say, save or copy it. Then when I want to scroll the page again I have to reposition the pointer outside of the image before Smoothwheel can kick in. A little annoying. :-)

Regards

Chee

[25] Submitted by: avih on Thursday April 24th 2003

->2: it will be included in the next version. it's working very nice already in my 'testlab'

->3: yup. you didn't RTFM ;) i couldn't find a method to make it ALWAYS work correctly. in the prev version it would just stay put if you were over an inline image or form's textarea. in v0.2 i made it use the default scroll if i can't handle it. the 'momentum' stuff: yup, correct. i actually gave it some thought, and consider it a 'feature' ;), i figured it's better than nothing. it only selects the target scroll object when a scroll is initialized, and NOT when the scroll is 'extended'.

"A little annoying. :-)" ... well, wanna help and fix it yourself? ;)

avih

[26] Submitted by: Chee on Friday April 25th 2003

Re: Inline Images

Yes. I too, find v0.2 a vast improvement over the previous version as far as inline images are concerned. The 'momentum', as you put it, is indeed a feature and better than nothing.

I would love to fix it myself but alas, I've not a programming bone in my body. :-(

BTW, I don't quite understand the part about "...made it use the default scroll if I can't handle it". What is the 'default scroll' we're talking about here?

Not to sound too selfish but I merely want to point out that the ability to 'focus' over an inline image and start scrolling thereafter is essential in my work (less for surfing at home). I deal with multiple images managing digital photo sites and having the scrolling broken down every few turns of the wheel is frustrating to say the least. Is there any way around this, perhaps by seeing how other similar mousescroll projects are handling this?

With Regards,

Chee

[27] Submitted by: avih on Friday April 25th 2003

@Chee:
yes, it's still NOT perfect, but it's the best i can pull out atm. the default scroll is the one that would happen if you wouldn't install smoothwheel (just put the pointer over the "Your Comment" area at the bottom of this page and scroll).

perhaps you could give me some urls of pages that this problem is severe for you. if i get these i might be able to make a specific patch for you to tackle this issue (possibly with a price of performing less efficiently for the more 'common' cases).

[28] Submitted by: Chee on Friday April 25th 2003

1. This is very strange. I just double-checked some of the supposed non-working sites which contain problem inline images and found that I had mouthed off too quickly - apologies. The problem isn't so much as inline images causing the pointer to 'die' on them - no, the 'default scroll' kicks in seamlessly as a substitute. Cool. If, however, an ad-blocker is in use (I use Privoxy) which render any inline image (eg. banner, gif, shockwave ad) into a 'dead space', *then* the mouse pointer will die on that 'dead space'. This problem is more prevalent on online magazine sites - following is an example:

http://www.straitstimes.com.sg/world/story/0,4386,185181,00.html?

The advertisement in the middle of the page is blocked by the ad-blocker and at the same time it isn't linked to anything. Mouse pointer is dead over it.

2. Another thing: as I type in this comment field, isn't the scrolling suppose to scroll 'inside' the comment field instead of the whole page?

Regards,

Chee

[29] Submitted by: avih on Friday April 25th 2003

1. i'll check the privoxy issue.
2. if the focus is inside the comment field (i.e. you click the area) then it scrolls inside. otherwise, it scrolls the whole page.

again, i know the detection procedure is not perfect, it's much better than v0.1, it's working well in the vast majority of cases. and it's the best i can do without putting days into these 2% of cases. if someone is willing to help me out here, i'll gladly incorporate the contribution into the code.

i just had another idea though. how about a modifier key to disable smoothwheel (configurable)? i.e. while you hold the ALT key (or other) and scroll, smoothwheel will be disabled. would this help?

cheers
avih

[30] Submitted by: avih on Friday April 25th 2003

@chee:
i've installed Privoxy, i see what you mean, but couldn't find an immediate solution for this issue. i suggest you either disable smoothwheel then, or just wait for a solution to come up later on, either by me or through a contribution. sorry i couldn't help any more.

avih

[31] Submitted by: Chee on Friday April 25th 2003

Hope I didn't come across as too whiney - no doubt about it, SmoothWheel v0.2 is *much* better than v0.1 and it does work wonderfully in most cases.

Re Modifier Key:

The modifier key disabler feature should be somewhat useful but Mozilla already uses uses the Ctrl, Shft and Alt keys as modifiers - would it be a problem?

Re blocked ads' 'dead space':

It would take much more than this to get me to remove SmoothWheel - it's too useful in most circumstances. :-) I'll just put it on my wish-list and hope it'll be solved one day.

Re focus of point in or out of comment field:

There's a problem on my end - even when the cursor is in the comment field (active use) any scrolling with the mousewheel will scroll the whole page and not inside the field.

Regards,

Chee

[32] Submitted by: jk on Wednesday April 30th 2003

Is there a way to easily uninstall the smoothwheel extension?

[33] Submitted by: Andrea.m on Wednesday April 30th 2003

Can you add the configuration options to about:config? I don't want to edit an obscure file (of course an advanced configuration GUI would be the best!!). Sorry something was wrong with bugzilla and couldn't enter this as a bug.

[34] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday April 30th 2003

@jk:
for now, extension can't be uninstalled unless you re-install the browser. this is not smoothwheel's limitation but mozilla/firebird/phoenix one.

if you have firebird/phoenix, you can disable it from the menu: tools->options->extensions. then select smoothwheel, and click the 'Disable extension' button.

if you have mozilla you'll have to check out the configuration instructions on this website. when you find and open the file mentioned, just change "EnableThisExtension=true;" to "EnableThisExtension=false;".

@Andrea.m:
I don't know how to do that yet (both suggestions) although they're both resonable requests. I hope i'll be able to provide these easier configuration options in one of my next versions. don't hold your breath though.... it takes much time, and i'm doing it for free. if, on the other hand, you want to help and implement it yourself, i'd appreciate it and add your contribution to the extension.

cheers
avih
check out the configuration section

[35] Submitted by: Andrea M on Wednesday April 30th 2003

I don't know either, but I checked the pie menues project (optimoz.mozdev.org) and it seems not too difficult.
Check their file piePrefsPanel.xul

[37] Submitted by: avih on Thursday May 1st 2003

@peter:
Find your friends elswhere pls!

[38] Submitted by: Alex on Friday May 2nd 2003

WoW! Very nice!, can't wait for 0.3! =)

[39] Submitted by: mbi on Saturday May 10th 2003

Works great on OS X Firebirds!

[40] Submitted by: otama on Saturday May 24th 2003

i DO really LOVE this extension

its so soft :)

congratulations!

[41] Submitted by: avih on Monday May 26th 2003

v0.3 test

[42] Submitted by: david on Wednesday May 28th 2003

nice :)

[43] Submitted by: Agagooga on Friday May 30th 2003

Is Autoscroll on the roadmap for the future?

The autoscroll project is looking for a new maintainer. It would complement the smoothwheel project perfectly!

[44] Submitted by: avih on Saturday May 31st 2003

Agagooga, the autoscroll extension is mainatned also as part of all-in-one-gestures ( )

[45] Submitted by: Bernd on Monday June 2nd 2003

Two things:
- Please fix the bugzilla (maybe this has to go to the mozdev site maintainers, but anyway)
- smoothwheel does not work together very well with the wheel rocker gestures of the latest optimoz gestures nightly build 20030602. I.e. holding down the right mouse button and scrolling normally changes tabs, this does work only sometimes when smoothwheel is enabled

[46] Submitted by: ptaczek on Monday June 2nd 2003

Maaaan this is absolutely PERFECT!!! ;D Thanx!

[47] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday June 4th 2003

@Bernd:
- what's worng with bugzilla?
- wheel rocker (or wheel navigation) issue is known. i'll prob release a minor version soon wich fix it.

thanx.

[48] Submitted by: avih on Sunday June 8th 2003

@Bernd:
pls check compatibility again with v0.31.

thanx.

[49] Submitted by: Sedination on Wednesday June 11th 2003

Oh baby, v0.31 is hella sweet! keep up the good work.

[50] Submitted by: Ethan on Friday June 27th 2003

Love the extension--it's always one of the first things I install after setting up a new Firebird installation.

I've got one question, though: when I middle-click on links that are on pages served up as application/xml+xhtml (e.g., http://www.sidesh0w.com/, http://simon.incutio.com/), the scrollwheel extension overrides my default preferences. I'd expect the link to open in a new tab, but instead the scrollwheel cursor comes up; I have to either Shift+click or right-click on the link to open it in a new tab. Is this something I can configure?

Thanks!

[51] Submitted by: avih on Monday June 30th 2003

BZZZZZZZZ.. wrong extension ;)
you probably ment autoscroll at http://autoscroll.mozdev.org

cheers
avih

[52] Submitted by: joker on Wednesday July 2nd 2003

aw so nice ;)

[53] Submitted by: Joe Smith on Tuesday July 8th 2003

Very nice, especially with while pressing shift for reading.

[54] Submitted by: Janet on Wednesday July 16th 2003

Cute :)
Janet

[55] Submitted by: Hi on Saturday July 26th 2003

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[56] Submitted by: Fox on Tuesday July 29th 2003

Hi!
Nice extension! However, it doesn't work for me with all sites, kinda strage. For example this extension works with www.codeproject.com ,but not with this and some other sites like mozdev.org. What's wrong? I'm using this extension for the first time with Firebird 0.6.1.

regards

[57] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday July 29th 2003

@Fox:
yes. i also noticed this issue with mozilla-firebird 0.61 today. i hope to dig into the issue asap. no promisses though.

thanx.
avih

[58] Submitted by: Sah on Wednesday July 30th 2003

@avih
Same on my System with Firebird 0.6.1!
No problems with Firebird 0.6 afair.

[59] Submitted by: Sah on Wednesday July 30th 2003

BTW:
SmoothWheel is GREAT!
THX for this excellent piece of software!

[60] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday July 30th 2003

@Sah: :D thx

about the MF0.61 issue, it MIGHT be related to this ( http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=214310 ) scrollwheel bug. i'm going to wait a bit to see if a fix is found on firebird itself. be patient. i'm also using this build now. it's mostely working, but on some pages (most notably, the default homepage) it doesn't.

i now think it's a firebird issue, but i'm looiking after it anyway ;)

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[64] Submitted by: Vladislav Duma on Wednesday August 13th 2003

Hello!

Indeed very nice extension, thanks developer for great job done. It's a pity that the code isn't included in official Mozilla distribution.

Works very nice on CRT screens, but on LCD screens (at least one I work with) the text of webpage appears to tremble while scrolling slowly (OK if one scrolls fast), even if I set the refresh rate to the refresh rate of the screen.

Perhaps the problem is with relatively slow screen updating of LCD screens?

Can the problem be solved with tweaking configuration? If so, could someone please advise me good (as for LCD screen) values for configuration parameters?

[65] Submitted by: Gearhead on Friday August 29th 2003

Thanks for this - I love it! It seems to work well with Mozilla 1.5b.

I would like to be able to scroll in menus. I suspect this is an entirely different issue, however.

[66] Submitted by: Alex on Sunday August 31st 2003

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[67] Submitted by: John on Monday September 1st 2003

Awesome !!! I guess I won't have to complain about the smoothness of the sroll in Mozilla anymore. Great work.

John,

[68] Submitted by: Berberecho on Friday September 5th 2003

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[74] Submitted by: Hansi on Tuesday September 9th 2003

free the mousewheel

[75] Submitted by: Urbenet on Sunday September 14th 2003

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[76] Submitted by: Dominik Geisler on Monday September 15th 2003

Just asking: Will there ever be a smoothwheel version wich can install into the profile? Or can I do that myself? (I tried some editing of the chrome files, but that resulted in FB crashing on start).

omc__pusscat@hotmail.com

[77] Submitted by: avih on Monday September 15th 2003

@ Dominik Geisler:
i have little time to add this feature, but if you wanna work on it (AND test it), i'll gladly add your contrib to the code. cheers.

avih.

[78] Submitted by: Ogged on Monday September 15th 2003

Wonderful! I like the way it works, but I'm curious about configuring it and don't see how. I'm using it with Firebird 1.5b and "Options" is greyed out under Extensions.

[79] Submitted by: Ogged on Monday September 15th 2003

Argh! Found it. I'm sorry for the dumb question.

[80] Submitted by: Dominik Geisler on Monday September 15th 2003

avih: I have absolutely no expirience in writing extensions. I have learnt some c++ and are somewhat experienced in html though, don't know if that helps.

[81] Submitted by: avih on Monday September 29th 2003

test

[82] Submitted by: avih on Sunday October 19th 2003

yay! user notes section is back :) thx to clav.

[83] Submitted by: Ben Darlow on Thursday October 23rd 2003

SmoothWheel for some reason breaks the new A List Apart (http://www.alistapart.com/) website - you can't scroll the page with the mousewheel *at all*. I'm disecting the site to try and find out what particular part of the design causes this, but haven't found out yet.

[84] Submitted by: avih on Thursday October 23rd 2003

thx Ben. checking that out as well.

cheers
avih

[85] Submitted by: Alex on Thursday October 30th 2003

I've encountered the same problem as Ben Darlow. Hopefully, this will be fixed soon. (ALA rocks!)

[86] Submitted by: avih on Friday October 31st 2003

Ben, Alex:
(re: www.alistapart.com issue)

i played with the page's css a bit, and for some strange reason, when i remove the style of the top border (solid) it behaves correctly. when i put back the style (either via border-top, as it is now, or via border-style: solid;) it won't scroll. i have no clue why that happens. but a quick and dirty hack for now would be to remove the 'solid' from the border-top definition at the css.

sorry i couldn't do better.

cheers
avih

[87] Submitted by: avih on Friday October 31st 2003

clarification: the border-top issue i was talking about earlier was that of the 'body' element at the css file.

avih

[88] Submitted by: Bad_Karma on Wednesday November 5th 2003

Win 98Using this on Win 98 I can only figure out how to get the wheel to move the page both up and down if I configure it via a modifier key. If I move the wheel down I sroll down and if I move the wheel up I scroll down too. I can configure it so I get it to roll in the opposite direction if I press control - is there something obvious I'm missing?

[89] Submitted by: Paradais on Sunday November 9th 2003

Please some1 can helpme. I use mozillafirebird under linux.The scroll dont work, when i use the scroll it selec the text on the mouse and the scroll is freeze. :( some tip plz.

[90] Submitted by: avih on Sunday November 9th 2003

@Bad_Karma, Paradais:

pls try to enable compatibility mode ( http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/installation.html#compatibility . pls let me know it it helped...

avih

[91] Submitted by: raf on Wednesday November 19th 2003

It looks like smoothwheel works in documents having a DOCTYPE declaration, but not in documents without one. Is anyone else seeing that? Using Debian Moz. package 1.5-3 and SmoothWheel 0.32. Sorry if I'm missing something.

[92] Submitted by: avih on Thursday November 20th 2003

@raf: i'll look into that. thx for the info. if you do get to any more conclusions, pls don't hesitate to post them here.

thx.
avih.

[93] Submitted by: raf on Thursday November 20th 2003

In reference to comment 91, the document must have a DOCTYPE including a URI for the DTD. E.g., smoothwheel does not work for me with CNN.com, whose DOCTYPE is:

Changing this to:

enables smoothwheel.

[94] Submitted by: raf on Thursday November 20th 2003

sorry about comment 93, guess this thing doesn't like DOCTYPE declarations in comments.. anyway, DOCTYPE declarations need to have DTD URIs.

[95] Submitted by: avih on Thursday November 20th 2003

@raf
i tried cnn.com, and it worked for me (XP-Pro, moz1.5rc and moz-fb - 2003-09-25).

could you pls try to enable compatibility mode (see post #90), and let me know if it's working? (i can't put my hand on a working debian for the moment).

thx again
avih

[96] Submitted by: raf on Friday November 21st 2003

Hmm... guess I should have tried that before. Now on cnn.com, smoothwheel works everywhere except when the mouse cursor is over an advertiser's image. CNN puts these images in IFRAMEs though, so no surprise.

Interestingly, *without* compatability mode, I *was* able to scroll the main cnn.com window when the mouse was over these same images.

[97] Submitted by: ToyKeeper on Thursday November 27th 2003

I was experiencing the "doesn't smoothscroll on some pages" problem in debian with firebird 0.7. I tried compatibility mode, and this seems to fix the problem.

Also, I noticed that the pages where smoothwheel didn't work were only broken when the topmost or leftmost edge of the page were showing. If I could hscroll, and went slightly to the right, smoothwheel would work.

[98] Submitted by: Steve Sipe on Sunday December 7th 2003

I am using a Kensington Pocketpro with my laptop & have lots of trouble with wheel scrolling. It scrolls backwards if the wheel is turned before the previous scroll lands. I will try to adjust the configuration, I will report back if I find a combination that behaves normally.

[99] Submitted by: avih on Monday December 8th 2003

@ Steve Sipe: thanks.

avih.

[100] Submitted by: Dunderklumpen on Wednesday December 24th 2003

Just discovered some problems with Mozilla. I loose the scroll completely in PHpBB forums and on some homepages with builds after the 21:th. Smoothwheel works OK on builds before that- but not on any of the available builds after that (tested with 22 and 23). I have not yet tested with Firebird since I am on a build from the 18:th on that one. I have tested this with all the available version of smoothwheel and end up with the same result - no scroll.

[101] Submitted by: Dunderklumpen on Wednesday December 24th 2003

Just tested the extension with the pre 0.8 build of Firebird and it does work there. Well, this just might be a problem with my system but it gives me every impression of being bugrelated. Just letting you know.

[102] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday December 24th 2003

@ Dunderklumpen:
thx for the info. unfortunately, the nightlies are changing, and it causes smoothwheel, AllInOne gestures and more, to function inappropriately. it's a known issue, and i already have a new version that should work better. but it's like chasing your own tail. therefore, i try to make it work with stable versions. i don't mind if it's working on nightlies as well, but i can't modify the code every few days. of course, if you can come up with a general solution that will work regardless of the version date, i'll be glad to incorporate it.

untill then though, my highest priority is to make it work with stable releases.

thx for your information anyway.
cheers
avih

[103] Submitted by: Dunderklumpen on Thursday December 25th 2003

I fully understand that and I am getting to the point where I will only use releases myself. There are just to many issues, bugs and strange stuff happening to the nightlies right now. Just tested with the latest build (25:th) and smoothwheel does not work in that version. And as far as any other solution than getting the extension to work with release-versions - no. I think your way is the best route to go. Thanks for a "must-have-extension"!

[104] Submitted by: avih on Thursday December 25th 2003

@ Dunderklumpe
:) thx 4 the understanding.

[105] Submitted by: mqwtm on Monday December 29th 2003

I'd like to echo SilvereX's comment - http://smoothwheel.mozdev.org/index.html#14 - "I would like a capability to smoothscroll with PgUp/PgDn/Scrollbar clicking/good old keyboard arrows"

Also, installing into the profile folder would probably reduce mozdev's traffic quite a bit ;)

[106] Submitted by: jland on Wednesday January 14th 2004

I just want to try disabling the SmoothWheel extension, but I have Moz 1.5 (so no access to Options | Extensions) and can't find any lines for smooth scrolling in about:Config. What am I looking for? Tnx.

[107] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday January 14th 2004

@jland:
please take a look at the configuration section.

avih.

[108] Submitted by: Alex H. on Wednesday January 21st 2004

Any plans of updating this extension to work with the new 0.8.0+ builds of Firebird? It's the only feature that keeps me from upgrading from 0.7 ;)

And I'd also suggest that future versions of SmoothWheel be installed in the profile directory. It's better for everyone, you know :D

[109] Submitted by: ghuul on Friday January 23rd 2004

Could someone test smoothwheel on http://www.zive.cz ? It doesnt work for me on this pages (moz1.5&1.6 all with default setup). I think it was only one site where I was not able to use this nice extension.

[110] Submitted by: avih on Saturday January 24th 2004

http://www.zive.cz is confirmed not to work on v0.32.

But it's working well for me with a fixed version i'm currently evaluating. as the news says (top right of this page), i will release a fix soon.

I've also added an item to the tips section: "when it's not working, try placing the mouse pointer over the scrollbar".

cheers,
avih

[111] Submitted by: ghuul on Saturday January 24th 2004

Great. I'm lookinkg forward to a new version.

[112] Submitted by: Dunderklumpen on Sunday January 25th 2004

Any information on when smoothwheel will work with trunk-builds?

[113] Submitted by: avih on Sunday January 25th 2004

@Dunderklumpen:
VERY soon, thank you.

avih

[114] Submitted by: Rick on Monday January 26th 2004

Great to here that , btw the 14-01-04 trunk build still works with smoothwheel so the changes/fixes after that build broke it.

[115] Submitted by: ozphactor on Monday January 26th 2004

Errr... having trouble running Smoothwheel on Firebird 0.7 on Linux (Fedora).

Basically, it doesn't work. At all. Dunno what's up...

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.5) Gecko/20031007 Firebird/0.7

[116] Submitted by: ozphactor on Monday January 26th 2004

Never mind, it seems like SmoothWheel is kinda working now. It works on pages with a doctype, but not on pages without.

Funny, because on Windows, it works on all pages...

[117] Submitted by: ozphactor on Tuesday January 27th 2004

Heh, I really ought to start reading documentation. Turning on compatibility mode fixed it right up :)

[118] Submitted by: Rick on Friday January 30th 2004

Thx for the v 0.33 i am scrolling great again(latest nightly 30-1-04) :D

[119] Submitted by: avih on Friday January 30th 2004

@Rick:
;)

[120] Submitted by: laszlo on Friday January 30th 2004

Thanks for updating. Glad to be back in the nightly biz.

[121] Submitted by: Quark on Friday January 30th 2004

Unfortunately, it seems that anything but the default settings (changed through the smoothwheel.js file) gives a popup "Alert: handle(normal)" or something like that EVERY time you scroll.

[122] Submitted by: Murphyrulez on Saturday January 31st 2004

I am getting the popup Alert: handeled(normal) every time the scroll wheel clicks.

Sorta defeats the purpose.. :(

[123] Submitted by: avih on Saturday January 31st 2004

OOPS: 'handled(normal)' alert on settings other than the defaults. my mistake.

pls scroll to line 543 (of smoothwheel.js) or search for this:
alert("handled(normal)");
and comment it out like this:
//alert("handled(normal)");

i'll release a fixed version soon.
sorry.

avih

[124] Submitted by: Rick on Tuesday February 3rd 2004

Found one page where smoothwheel is not working ok, it's the only page but mayb it happends to more website's.
Not asking for a fix though(using it one time for a 8 port switch) but if it is a bug in the extension it could be nice to know :)

Website(dutch):
http://www.hardwareconcurrent.nl/

[125] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday February 3rd 2004

@Rick:
working for me : http://www.hardwareconcurrent.nl/
(MFB/2004-01-20, SWv0.33.1)

i'll gladly accept more reports on non-working sites (or another test case for this specific page)

thx
avih

[126] Submitted by: Rick on Tuesday February 3rd 2004

Hmm tried another firebird build and now it is scrolling fine.
With the 02-02-04 aebrahim build it was not working ok:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=49220&start=0

But with another build it was working fine:

http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=49424

So most have been a buggy trunk build ;)

[127] Submitted by: dualcells on Saturday February 7th 2004

I recently downloaded the zipped version of Firebird 0.7

installed smoothwheel after adding the registry keys,

no problems, works great

[128] Submitted by: manolo on Wednesday February 11th 2004

smooth ...
i bet the notepad.exe will have this in the future.
(or what's that ie smoothscroll?.. )

const sw_PresetSettings=4;

[129] Submitted by: avih on Friday February 27th 2004

test

[130] Submitted by: alank on Thursday March 4th 2004

I installed smoothwheel with Firefox v0.8 on Debian unstable. As root, it works well. Unfortunately, firefox doesn't start for normal users after it has been installed. I tried cleaning it out (no uninstall option is available that I could see?), with no luck. Had to apt-get remove, then apt-get install to get things back to normal. For now, I'll stick with "general.smoothscroll true".
Alan

[131] Submitted by: avih on Thursday March 4th 2004

alank, have u followed the linux installation instructions on the tips section at the top-rigth of this page?

[132] Submitted by: alank on Friday March 5th 2004

avih - didn't see the instructions at the right before, but I'll install it again and give it a go! Thanks very much for the pointer.

[133] Submitted by: Petey on Sunday March 7th 2004

The Alt key modifier for scrolling quickly does not work in Thunderbird .5

[134] Submitted by: avih on Sunday March 7th 2004

@Petey: yup, i know. i don't know how to change that. can u invoke 'about:config' in thunderbird?? then it SHOULD be easy.. (mousewheel.withaltkey.action=0)

[135] Submitted by: Ret on Tuesday March 16th 2004

Is it possible to have the standard behaviour of Windows wheelmouse? I mean having the possibility to stop smoothscrolling when the wheel is turned (Now, you have to middleclick to stop it).

[136] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday March 16th 2004

Ret, you're talking about another feature which is called autoscroll. try to look for All-In-One gestures extension, it has what u need.

avih.

[137] Submitted by: Ret on Wednesday March 17th 2004

Thanks avih!
Although autoscroll is suppossed to be working in Firefox I installed the all-in-one extension you recommended. It works as I want!
Now Scrolling is stopped whenever I turn the wheel!
Thanks again

[138] Submitted by: idom on Thursday March 18th 2004

First of all, thanks, it's a really great extension.

There is a bug though. I have both Adblock and Smoothwheel installed and the Smoothwheel doesn't "grip" the page whenever you stand over a removed frame. In other words, if I stand over a location that used to contain an advertisement frame and Adblock removed it, Smoothwheel doesn't scroll (there was no problem scrolling in these locations before I installed smoothwheel). You can try for example http://www.haaretz.co.il which has a lot of advertisments on the right side.

[139] Submitted by: avih on Thursday March 18th 2004

>First of all, thanks, it's a really great extension.

thx.

now, regarding this bug. 1st thing, u may try compatibility mode (check out the configuration section).

but generally speaking, the detection code is not perfect and is always a work in progress (usually maintained by marc, authou of AIO extension, and which i occasionally 'leech'). add the fact the (unfortunately) the detection code might sometimes break with nightly builds, and the result is that, yes, sometimes it doesn't work.

nevertheless, thx for the bug report. if i'll have time (unlikely though) i might have a look at it. even better, if YOU have the time, i'll gladly accept a fix for this specific issue.

thx anyway,
avih

[140] Submitted by: Joseph on Tuesday March 23rd 2004

How do I configure this plug-in? The Options button in the extensions pref in Firefox is disabled.

[141] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday March 23rd 2004

Joseph, you scroll to the top of this page, and click the 'configuration' link.

[142] Submitted by: Kobi on Wednesday March 24th 2004

Avi, thanks for this extension which works very well for me out of the box on a rather slow PC (450 MHz). I don't see any problem on screen areas where ads were removed by adblock (I tested the same link as idom).

[143] Submitted by: avih on Thursday March 25th 2004

@Kobi, that's good. the thing is that nightly version may behave a bit differently. my objective is to make it work with official stable releases. i'll be glad if it's working on others (and it usually does), but i can't test the app with every nightly/optimized build. so the fact that it's working for you doesn't mean that it's also working for idom.

thx for your repport and support though.
avih

[144] Submitted by: Jordan on Tuesday March 30th 2004

I absolutely cannot get this to work. I've tried everything. I'm using a Dell with a mousepad, and I have edge-scrolling turned on (so that the edges of the mousepad act as the scrolling wheel). I NEED my edge scrolling! Browsing is SUCH a pain w/o it! HELP!

[145] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday March 30th 2004

@Jordan: :( i don't have this kind of computer/mousepad so i cannot comment. i don't think the mousepad driver actually generates mouse wheel events, and with no mouse wheel events, smoothwheel won't function.

this seems to me a a general mozilla issue with mousepads, but i don't know much about them. sorry mate.

avih

[146] Submitted by: avih on Thursday April 22nd 2004

test

[147] Submitted by: Sergio on Friday April 23rd 2004

Hi there!

alank (2004-03-04) said:

I installed smoothwheel with Firefox v0.8 on Debian unstable. As root, it works well. Unfortunately, firefox doesn't start for normal users after it has been installed. ...

avih (2004-03-04) answered:

alank, have u followed the linux installation instructions on the tips section at the top-rigth of this page?

and I say:

I have followed instructions, but Firefox doesn't start :-( ...

[148] Submitted by: Sergio on Saturday April 24th 2004

Hi!

Sergio again :-). Finally I managed to make it work with a non-root user. Instead of doing permissions 644 I had to do them 655, and it works perfect. I have Debian Sarge + firefox 0.8. Thanks for the extension ...

Sergio

[149] Submitted by: avih on Saturday April 24th 2004

Sergio, you might want to try the unsupported 0.4p. it will allow you to select profile installation. this way any user should be able to install without using any root privileges. i didn't try it though, so any feedback will be appreciated.

avih

[150] Submitted by: Jeff on Sunday April 25th 2004

i know u haven't seen new posts for almost a year.. but just wanted to let u know i like it it. using firefox 0.8 right now. nice to be able to control how much scolling i want. good job!! keep it up.. looking foward to updates in the future

[151] Submitted by: Jeff on Sunday April 25th 2004

oops.. was reading the wrong date... hehe

[152] Submitted by: Mike on Sunday May 9th 2004

Great Extension! I just wish that arrow keys/pgUp/pgDn would work with it...

[153] Submitted by: Rick on Friday May 14th 2004

Mayb found a bug:

http://www.gamer.nl/nieuws/22054

Scrolls not constant, stops sometimes then continues.
Possible because of the banners, don't use adblock and only have smoothwheel and Tab browser extenions installed:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040514 Firefox/0.8.0+ (Lohvarn)

Pc specs: athlon xp 3200 with geforce 4 ti and 512 mb ram(so it's not my pc ;) )
If smoothwheel is disabled scrolling works ok, tested it with the latests smoothwheel.

Thanks in advance,

Rick

[154] Submitted by: avih on Sunday May 16th 2004

rick, i can't reproduce the bug. maybe you can try the same page on another computer and let me know the results? it's working well for me on that page...

[155] Submitted by: Kobi Haron on Thursday May 27th 2004

I have installed smoothwheel 0.4 on Thunderbird 0.6 - doesn't appear to work as I have jumpy scrolling.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8

[156] Submitted by: avih on Friday May 28th 2004

@Kobi Haron:
i'm using sw v0.4[b]p[/b].xpi on thunderbird 0.6. pls give it a try. u can get it form the installaion page..

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[157] Submitted by: Picasso on Sunday May 30th 2004

I tried to install in Mac OS Jaguar and Firefox unexpected quits during download or installation. I tried at least twice w/ same result.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8

[158] Submitted by: Greg on Friday June 4th 2004

I installed smoothwheel as root for firefox on my GNU/linux debian system but now I can't launch firefox as ordinary user.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040413 Debian/1.6-5

[159] Submitted by: avih on Saturday June 5th 2004

Greg, have u read this page at all? tried to search the word 'linux' on this page?

annoyed.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[160] Submitted by: mpteach on Sunday June 6th 2004

Unfortunatley the tab scroller extention (right click and scroll) doesn work with smoothwheel enabled.

Overall im am seriously impressed with smoothwheel, i think this will probably be an option in future firefox builds, but for now this extention rocks. My refresh rate is the only thing holding me back.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8

[161] Submitted by: avih on Sunday June 6th 2004

@mpteach:
u can try all-in-one-gestures. it has tab scroller, and works perfectly with smoothwheel.

cheers
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[162] Submitted by: Pussycat on Tuesday June 8th 2004

I have difficulties with 0.4. It fails to scroll on numerous sites, for example on:

The other builds do work perfectly, but I want to be able to install to profile :(

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8a2) Gecko/20040602 Firefox/0.8.0+

[163] Submitted by: Peter on Wednesday June 9th 2004

I installed this and tried it out. It really is very smooth. One thing that is driving me nuts. I use IE all the time because it has creamy smooth autoscroll which I use constantly.
For Mozilla I can use Autoscroll which works, but is jerky and flickery and very unfriendly to look at. It would be delightful if Autoscroll could be patched to use Smoothwheel's routines for the scrolling.
Right now with Mozilla unlike IE, I can't have both.
I see a need out there. Is it possible for you to add this functionality into your extension?

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.0)

[164] Submitted by: warpcafe on Thursday June 10th 2004

Hi!
Just wanted to let you know, that SmoothWheel also works great and flawlessly within the os/2-port of Mozilla that was made by IBM (the so-called "IBM Web Browser") version 2.02... which is based on the 1.4 version of Mozilla. When I'm back at the office, I'll ket you know if it works with newer ports (1.6 and up) for OS/2 eCS as well. Thanks for that great piece of code! ;)

Thomas

Mozilla/5.0 (OS/2; U; Warp 4.5; de-DE; rv:1.3) Gecko/20030616

[165] Submitted by: avih on Thursday June 10th 2004

@Peter:
All-In-One-gestures has another implementation of autoscroll (similar to mozilla internal implementation). i'll ask Marc (AIO author) him if he can increase the framerate which should make his autoscroll much smoother.

@warpcafe:
that's nice, i wasn't thinking of OS/2 ;) even when i was working for IBM (some LONG time ago), i was not working on OS/2 machines ;)

thx for the info.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040405 Firefox/0.8.0+ (BlueFyre)

[166] Submitted by: chapas on Friday June 11th 2004

avih: SmoothWheel has always rocked. Now, Firefox 0.9 release date is approaching, and with the release, a new Extension Manager with new API. I read the multi-user tip for Linux and it always breaks my Firefox. I don't know if this can be fixed, but if it's possible, amen. What I'm asking for is a repackaged version of SmoothWheel with the new API support and the Linux "bug" fixed. SmoothWheel is not just one more extension on the list. I _CAN'T_ use Firefox without it. So I beg you, please, please, please, release a new version for Fx 0.9.

A SmoothWheel addict

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 Firefox/0.8.0+

[167] Submitted by: avih on Friday June 11th 2004

@chapas:
thx. version 0.4p (from the install page) install to any user on linux, even on knoppix and alike.

regarding the 0.9, it's on my todo. although i'm kinda put off by the way the theme issue was handles. it will be released eventually though.

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[168] Submitted by: chapas on Friday June 11th 2004

avih: I tried the 0.4p version with Fx 0.9rc1. I installed Firefox in /home/chapas/firefox (chapas is my user) and both profile and directory ways fail with error -215 (no permission). Installing as root breaks Fx, and it won't boot. /me cries ='(

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 Firefox/0.8.0+

[169] Submitted by: avih on Friday June 11th 2004

chapas, pls contact me by email.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[170] Submitted by: ben on Wednesday June 16th 2004

i NEED smoothwheel for Firefox .9! Please! Help!!! I can't stand using firefox without it!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040608 Firefox/0.8

[171] Submitted by: Rick on Wednesday June 16th 2004

Any chance of a firefox 0.9 smoothwheel update this week?
Because it is a £X"?'& without the smooth scrolling, it feels like scrolling on a rock :P

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.9

[172] Submitted by: avih on Thursday June 17th 2004

smoothwheel WILL be available for FX 0.9. i don't know when, MAYBE this weekend, since i'm quite busy. it's on my todo though. sorry for the delay.

avih.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040405 Firefox/0.8.0+ (BlueFyre)

[173] Submitted by: Vic on Friday June 18th 2004

Smooth Wheel doesn't work with multi-user accounts in Mac OS X. Installing Smooth Wheel on Mozilla or Firefox works in one user account. But if you log into another user account and try to launch Mozilla or Firefox, the browser will either hang or crash. Removing Smooth Wheel fixes the problem

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616

[174] Submitted by: DeltaDrone on Thursday June 24th 2004

for some reason, your extension along with several others (but not all) does not show up under the listed extensions, although it clearly has been installed. consequently i cant uninstal it. Wheel scrolling is a little better than standard firefox smooth scrolling but middle mouse button and drag scrolling is not as good as the built in smooth scrolling in my view. perhaps (first problem asside), you could allow the 2 different types of scrolling to be seperatly selected in options.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.8

[175] Submitted by: avih on Thursday June 24th 2004

@DeltaDrone:
1. SmoothWheel has nothing to do with middle mouse button and drag. u're experiencing the default mozilla one (it's called auto scroll), or the one from all-in-one-gestures extension (if u installed it)

2. it doesn't show in FF v0.9 since you're using the old smoothwheel which was NOT designed for firefox 0.9. a new version will be out soon.

avih.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[176] Submitted by: jasone on Tuesday June 29th 2004

"...a new version will be out soon."

Thanks for all your work.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[177] Submitted by: Justin on Wednesday June 30th 2004

Awesome. To tell you the truth, I can't even use 0.9 because I love Smoothwheel SO MUCH. I can't wait.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040210 Firefox/0.6 StumbleUpon/1.66

[178] Submitted by: Rawr on Wednesday June 30th 2004

Dude, you need to get this sorted quick! It's the only extension homepage I'm checking on a daily basis.

What...have...you..made...me...done...nooooooo. :)

Cheers.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.9

[179] Submitted by: Egosphere on Thursday July 1st 2004

Can't wait untill this is updated... I'm kinda in the same position as Rawr. :P Eek.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.9

[180] Submitted by: PsychoD on Friday July 2nd 2004

Me too - I'm won't touch Firefox 0.9 until Smoothwheel is ready ;)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040206 Firefox/0.8

[181] Submitted by: Martin on Saturday July 3rd 2004

Please! I would use every alpha or beta running on Firefox v0.9 on the Mac. I love Smoothwheel and if it is available soon, i have to switch back to 0.8.

I hope your "soon" will really be soon. Thanx for your great work (why isn't this standard in Firefox?) and keep it up.

Martin

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040628 Firefox/0.9.1

[182] Submitted by: avih on Saturday July 3rd 2004

new version is up. Mac users comments are welcome (along with others of course).

sorry for the long delay.

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[183] Submitted by: Constantine on Sunday July 4th 2004

Thanks a lot, Avih!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[184] Submitted by: troy on Sunday July 4th 2004

Is it possible to configure v0.41?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[185] Submitted by: avih on Sunday July 4th 2004

@troy:
It's a bit more complex to configure v0.41:
1. open your /extensions/{5F590AA2-1221-4113-A6F4-A4BB62414FAC}/chrome folder

2. unzip smoothwheel.jar
3. edit smoothwheel.js as before
4. rezip the directory and name it smoothwheel.jar (make sure it keeps the same irectory structure as the original smoothwheel.jar file)

5. run the application again.

i hope to release a properly configurable version soon (with an options panel)

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[186] Submitted by: Rawr on Sunday July 4th 2004

Thanks avih! FYI, to make life easier when editing FF jar files, download WinRAR.

It opens up the jar file like a normal directory and you can add/overwrite at will.

Remember to close FF before you save any changes to the jar file, otherwise nasty things will happen :)

Cheers!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.9

[187] Submitted by: Jeff on Sunday July 4th 2004

Hello, the extention works here on OS X 10.3.4 with all patches. FF: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040628 Firefox/0.9.1. For some reason it has disabled/broken horizontal scrolling (mousewheel.horizscroll.*) with my wireless Intellimouse 2.0. It worked before, and not now. I love the extention so much (it literally makes FF usable for me) that I don't care but felt it worth noting. If you need more details you can contact me @ wanderingstar - at - punkass.com. Thanks for all your hard work.

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040628 Firefox/0.9.1

[188] Submitted by: Martin on Sunday July 4th 2004

Thank you very much! Smoothwheel 0.41 works perfectly on the Mac with 10.4.3 and Firefox 0.91. Now it's a charme again to surf the web with Firefox. Really great.

Martin

Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; PPC Mac OS X Mach-O; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040628 Firefox/0.9.1

[189] Submitted by: avih on Sunday July 4th 2004

thank you all for your comments :) much appreciated.

@Jeff: hmmm... i never used a mouse with hiriz scroll before, pls let me check it out 1st, and if i can't 'get it', then i might use your email for 'interactive' help. thx.

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[190] Submitted by: jon on Monday July 5th 2004

Maybe you should also make the extention smooth scrolling along the page with the down and up keys. The builtin smooth scroll feature does, but I'd rather only use one or the other, and yours is better.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[191] Submitted by: Rick on Monday July 5th 2004

0.4.1 runs great over here on Firefox 0.9.1:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

Thanks for this great update :D

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[192] Submitted by: Gilbert on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 20:37:09 -0400

Thank you! I've got my 0.9 back to what it should be.

I don't understand why this extension would not be the default smooth wheel in Firefox... it is so much better.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.8

[193] Submitted by: ktml on Tue, 6 Jul 2004 21:16:16 -0400

you layyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy
It's configurable! All i needed to do is unzip the smoothwheel.js from jar file, changed the settings, and put it back in!
Good to see myself using smoothwheel again... feel like home
Thanks for the update ;)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040629 Firefox/0.9.1

[194] Submitted by: Stv on Thu, 8 Jul 2004 07:20:35 -0400

Fantastic marvelous thanks so much, I didn't realise how much I liked smooth scroll untill I had to do without.

Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1)

[195] Submitted by: Capt Commando on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:08:32 -0400

Greatly appreciate the update to work with FF 0.9 !!!
Mozilla Firefox is just not the same without SmoothWheel.

Any chance Smoothwheel will be added to ? I think a lot of new users are missing out on this wonderful extension.

I hope future version include some sort of GUI for easy tweaking. The default setting work great for most system. However, some adjustment are needed for old and slow computers.

Thank you once again for your work. :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[196] Submitted by: Capt Commando on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 10:11:09 -0400

heh, this form seem to remove the http.

Any chance Smoothwheel will be added to update.mozilla.org?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[197] Submitted by: Jlbrightbill on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 18:42:32 -0400

After I installed this plugin, I couldn't access my preferences anymore. I also tried uninstalling it via this ( and it says it's removed, but when I look in my extension list, it's still there. I'd really like to be able to access my prefs, what do I do? I installed it in my profile directory.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616

[198] Submitted by: Jlbrightbill on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 19:29:18 -0400

I also tried intalling it onto the non-profile directory, but I still can't get into my prefs.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616

[199] Submitted by: avih on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 22:00:28 -0400

@Jlbrightbill:
that's very strange. i tried it on the exact same mozilla 1.7 as u did, tried both profile and application, and both worked ok.

also, for mozilla you can use 0.4 or 0.4p. 0.41 only change is that it ALSO installs on new firefox/thunderbird.

i suggest a clean profile then.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[200] Submitted by: Jlbrightbill on Fri, 9 Jul 2004 22:23:39 -0400

I was able to remove it by simply deleting it from the folder, and it's now no longer listed in my extension manager. I know that's not the best way, but it's gone now. However, i still have the problem of no preferences window. When I click it, it makes my navigator inactive, and when I click on windows, it shows a second is open but with no name. I can't alt-tab to it and clicking it does nothing. How do I fix my profile?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040616

[201] Submitted by: Justin on Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:03:43 -0400

I can't for the life of me get Smoothwheel to work in Thunderbird 0.7.2. It's quite disappointing. I've downloaded it, installed it via Thunderbird's install extensions function, and it says it's a success, but doesn't work, nor does it show up in the Extensions window.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.6 StumbleUpon/1.66

[202] Submitted by: Justin on Sat, 10 Jul 2004 15:11:48 -0400

Nevermind - I figured it out somehow. It turned out that NO new extensions were installing. I uninstalled and reinstalled Thunderbird, added Smoothwheel, and all is well again.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040614 Firefox/0.6 StumbleUpon/1.66

[203] Submitted by: Bruce on Thursday 15th July 2004 at 16:49 -0400

Doesn't install for me. I'm using the Debian build of firefox 0.9.1. I click the smoothwheel.xpi link, but nothing happens. Other extensions from update.mozilla.org install just fine.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040712 Firefox/0.9.1

[204] Submitted by: avih on Friday 16th July 2004 at 00:50 -0400

@Bruce:
can u try to download the file (right-click -> save as) and then drag it into firefox from nautilus or something? or maybe just browse to the download location and click it?

pls let me know if it worked.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7b) Gecko/20040414 Firefox/0.8.0+ (MozJF/SVG)

[205] Submitted by: Skipweasel on Wednesday 28th July 2004 at 16:12 -0400

Firefox 0.9.2 under W2k.
Smoothscroll - great, but Options greyed out. Clicking on the blue square doesn't do anything either.
Am I missing the obvious?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[206] Submitted by: 421376020 on Thursday 29th July 2004 at 20:56 -0400

Hi, I can't find the configuration file. it's v0.41 and Firefox 9.2 on XP pro.

there is no trace of the thing in the firefox directory!

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[207] Submitted by: 421376020 on Thursday 29th July 2004 at 21:06 -0400

Oops. I guess it's not supposed to be configurable or something. Are older versions compatible with firefox 0.9.2?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[208] Submitted by: 421376020 on Thursday 29th July 2004 at 21:34 -0400

Hm. Looking very very smooth at 75fps, although my LCD panel seems to not like the 90 degree turned portrait mode at anything but 60hz...

anyways, avih, great extension, it's definitely my favorite.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[209] Submitted by: ex on Friday 6th August 2004 at 17:37 -0400

I am using firefox 0.93. I click the install link, and nothing's installed.I can download the smoothwheel-v0.41.xpi , but I couldn't install it,
firefox 0.8 was fine with smoothwheel.....What must I do?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3

[210] Submitted by: ex on Friday 6th August 2004 at 17:43 -0400

ok I solved the problem.Saving the xpi file to the disk,and dragging it to the firefox is working.Smoothwheel works fine with fireworks 0.93.Thanks:)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3

[211] Submitted by: Pussycat on Sunday 8th August 2004 at 13:25 -0400

I'm hoving trouble making a new .jar file with my own preferences. Wich program should I use and which options? ZipOffice failed t produce a working file; it was like smoothwheel wasn't installed at all.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[212] Submitted by: avih on Sunday 8th August 2004 at 16:23 -0400

@Pussycat:
all zip program will do imo (although i haven't tried the specific one u mentioned). the trick is to do it from the rioght directory. i.e. there's a difference whether u select the smoothwheel directory itself and compress it, or u select all the files/olders INSIDE the smoothwheel directory and compress, and then name the compressed file smoothwheel.jar.

best thing to do is to make sure that when u extract your new jar, it expands to exactly the same relative directory structure as the original jar.

hope it helps.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040730 Firefox/0.9.1+ (MOOX-AV)

[213] Submitted by: Greg K Nicholson on Monday 9th August 2004 at 13:49 -0400

Just a quick note: on the installation page, you say Smoothwheel is targeted at Firefox versions up to 0.999 and Thunderbird versions up to 0.799. Because Firefox and Thunderbird version numbers aren't "real" decimal numbers, rather they're a sequence of numbers separated by fullstops, "0.799" means "nought point seven hundred and ninety nine", not "nought point seven nine nine". So, it's a higher version number than 0.8 and 0.9. To target versions after 0.7 but before 0.8, you could use "0.7.999". Since the extension versioning system has been changed slightly since Tb0.7/Fx0.9, targetting just Tb0.7 and Fx0.9 should work anyway.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040807 Firefox/0.9.1+

[214] Submitted by: Pussycat on Tuesday 10th August 2004 at 15:56 -0400

@avih: Thanks! I didn't know I just had to create a zip file and rename it! Perhaps it's a good idea to put the tip somewhere though.

But zipping worked perfectly.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[215] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday 11th August 2004 at 03:26 -0400

@Greg K Nicholson:
thx for the enlighlenment ;)
i see your point, but practically, for FF, it doesn't matter (after 0.9[.]xxx, 1.0 will come), and for TB still 1.0 is higher than my max version, and i expect it to hold till TB 1.0. am i wrong?

thx anyway
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040810 Firefox/0.9.1+

[216] Submitted by: Greg K Nicholson on Wednesday 11th August 2004 at 16:01 -0400

avih, no problem, I just thought you might like to know :)
Actually another thing on the subject - Smoothwheel v0.41 is a higher version number than v0.5, so if/when you release a v0.5, the automatic update mechanism won't recognise the newer version; I suppose you could just call it 0.50.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040811 Firefox/0.9.1+

[217] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday 11th August 2004 at 18:06 -0400

@Greg K Nicholson:
right lol
thx for pointing that out, i guess it'll save me few when the time comes ;)

thx.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040810 Firefox/0.9.1+

[218] Submitted by: Bob on Sunday 15th August 2004 at 15:00 -0400

I love smoothwheel. I think firefox should come with it as default - their "smooth scroll" is anything but.

However, I can't live a default setting of 1 scroll step on firefox 0.9 :( I'm almost considering going back to 0.8 just so I can customize smoothwheel again....any idea when a configurable version will be out?

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.8

[219] Submitted by: Andrzej on Tuesday 17th August 2004 at 05:38 -0400

Hi. I can't install smoothwheel v41. When I click on the xpi link, nothing happens.

Do you know what I am doing wrong? I don't have such problems with other extensions.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3

[220] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday 17th August 2004 at 07:48 -0400

@Andrzej:
I don't know, although i've noticed it too with latest versions.

here's what u can do:
1. download (right-click, save as) the xpi file.
2. open extension-managers (from the tools menu)
3. drag the xpi to the open extension-manager-window.

i'll probably sort that out soon.
thx
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040810 Firefox/0.9.1+

[221] Submitted by: Andrzej on Sunday 22nd August 2004 at 09:35 -0400

It didn't work, dragging the xpi onto extension manager did nothing.

Then I tried to install it by hand by editing the extensions.rdf file, etc. It didn't help but then it was possible to install it by dragging the xpi onto the extension manager.

The installer didn't ask where I wanted to put the extension and apparently used the files where I had put them by hand.

Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040810 Firefox/0.9.1+

[222] Submitted by: asdf on Wednesday 25th August 2004 at 04:12 -0400

to the last few posts:

this server is jacked up; i had to go to another site

and it worked here.

i also can't figure out how to edit scroll speeds (there's no smoothscroll.js)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040707 Firefox/0.9.2

[223] Submitted by: lett on Wednesday 1st September 2004 at 12:43 -0400

I'm using Firefox 0.9.3 and I just installed Smoothwheel 0.41.

I faced the same problem as the prev post where I could not edit smoothscroll.js because there was none to be found.

Anyway I snooped around and found a way to edit speeds.

1) Go to your profile folder. In Windows 2000, the path is like "C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\Profiles\default.pwo"
2) Go into the "extensions" folder and one of those folders with weird alphabets and numbers corresponds to smoothwheel's. Find that folder and go in to the chrome folder.
3) You should see "smoothwheel.jar" now. Unzip it and a folder called "content" will appear.
4) In the "content" folder you will find the good old "smoothwheel.js" and you can edit it the same it was done before
5) Lastly zip the "content" folder back to "smoothwheel.jar". Restart browser

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040803 Firefox/0.9.3

[224] Submitted by: fdsa on Monday 6th September 2004 at 22:12 -0400

Hey avih, any word on when we can get a version with an options panel? Not that going into my profile, renaming, unzipping, editing, zipping and renaming is hard, but for some of the less techie users, there needs to be an options panel. No rush though. Thanks in advance.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040901 Firefox/0.9.3 StumbleUpon/1.995 (MOOX M1)

[225] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday 7th September 2004 at 22:25 -0400

@fdsa:
can't tell, since i'm a bit busy now. if someone is willing to add such an option, i'll gladly review it though, and will probably at release it as a contributed version.

sorry i can't do more atm, however, i always check that smoothwheel is still working with the latest nightlies (all ok so far). it IS on my todo though.

hope u understand,
avih.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040906 Firefox/1.0 PR (NOT FINAL)

[226] Submitted by: CarlozZ on Thursday 16th September 2004 at 11:03 -0400

Please make it work with 1.0PR!!!!

Best regards

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20040913 Firefox/0.10

[227] Submitted by: avih on Wednesday 22nd September 2004 at 04:41 -0400

to make it work with FireFox 1.0PR:

1. go to the installation page
2. right-click the install-link, then select "save link as". save smoothwheel.xpi file to the HD.
3. open the extension manager (tools -> extensions-manager)
4. drag-and-drop the smoothwheel.xpi file from the HD to the open extension-manager

it will now pop the installation dialog.

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040826 Firefox/0.9.1+

[228] Submitted by: me on Sunday 10th October 2004 at 20:10 -0400

Having smoothwheel installed in 1.0PR causes the check for updates to fail. It would be nice if it worked on 1.0PR.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041010 Firefox/0.10.1

[229] Submitted by: Angelus on Tuesday 19th October 2004 at 07:18 -0400

SmoothWheel doesn't work with 1.0RC1 :~(

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041018 Firefox/1.0

[230] Submitted by: avih on Tuesday 19th October 2004 at 21:10 -0400

>>SmoothWheel doesn't work with 1.0RC1 :~(

yes i'm aware of it. will be handled very soon.

avih.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041014 Firefox/0.10

[231] Submitted by: Angelus on Wednesday 20th October 2004 at 17:06 -0400

avih Thanks it would be nice.
SmoothWheel is one of the best extensions :P

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041019 Firefox/1.0

[232] Submitted by: avih on Friday 22nd October 2004 at 18:44 -0400

smoothwheel v0.42 adds support for firefox and thunderbird 1.0.

please check and let me know if all is ok (it's still not configurable)

thx.
avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041014 Firefox/0.10

[233] Submitted by: ieremiou on Sunday 24th October 2004 at 23:18 -0400

Not sure if my comment made it on here.
It works just fine in Firefox 1.0

No troubles.

Wish it was configurable though ;).

Ty.

Btw Thunderbird is 0.8 (not 1.0) :P.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041022 Firefox/1.0 (MOOX M3)

[234] Submitted by: avih on Monday 25th October 2004 at 06:04 -0400

@ieremiou:
thanks for your comment.

>>Btw Thunderbird is 0.8 (not 1.0) :P.

but of course ;). it's only that i've just about had it with the max-version that extension-authors have to put inside the extension, and have to move it up with each new release of firefox, or else, it won't start because it's "not compatible" with the current version.

so my max-version for smoothwheel is now 5.0 for both firefox and thunderbird (which includes thunderbird 1.0 when it comes out). that was my point ;)

avih

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7) Gecko/20040626 Firefox/0.9.1

[235] Submitted by: Angelus on Monday 25th October 2004 at 06:30 -0400

Working really well. No problems installing. Just installed over 4.1.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041022 Firefox/1.0

[236] Submitted by: Angelus on Monday 25th October 2004 at 06:52 -0400

And with 4.1 I of course mean 0.41 :)

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041024 Firefox/1.0

[237] Submitted by: Johnny on Thursday 28th October 2004 at 01:50 -0400

Almost perfect.

All you need to do is make it so you can easily change the settings. And no, editing a file somewhere doesn't count.

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.3) Gecko/20041026 Firefox/1.0RC1